Marcy
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Hello
I started reading these forums late last week when I was trying to find some information on rent prices. I've been working on my business plans to start a specialty coffee house (can't call it coffee shop here as the #1 product sold is not coffee :wink: ) for the last few months. I'm struggling mostly with estimating coffee consumption rates outside the home and office.
Since wanting to open my own cafe, I've been practising my espresso pulls, steaming milk, latte art, and roasting.
If all goes well with the planning, I hope to open within 6-9 months. It's a fairly big range because I'm still looking for the right spot. My #1 location is a brand new building that will be completed next month; however, I got the numbers: 485 euros/m2 "casco" (meaning box bare, just cement outer walls, cement floor, and cement ceiling, no toilets, no sinks, no inner walls, absolutely nothing else). The leasing agent was quick to point out those that in this "casco" scenario, the outer windows & doors are included (yes, you read that correctly) and of course, I need to add 19% VAT to that price. What this means monthly is a little of 6K euros per month for 125m2 (approx 1125 sf) just for rent alone. Having found the rental-to-sales ratios here and elsewhere on the internet, means a whole lot of selling!
One more fact about The Netherlands: although *$ has its EMEA HQ in Amsterdam, there isn't a single *$ shop open in the whole country. I think I also remember reading somewhere that the *$ coffee is roasted here and shipped to the rest of the EU.
Anyway, in the next 2 months, I'm hoping to take some barista lessons in London to make sure I'm doing it right. And while I'm there, I figure I'd take some cupping courses too.
That's more than enough blah blah from me... sorry, gift of gab.
Looking forward to getting to know you,
Marcy
Hello
I started reading these forums late last week when I was trying to find some information on rent prices. I've been working on my business plans to start a specialty coffee house (can't call it coffee shop here as the #1 product sold is not coffee :wink: ) for the last few months. I'm struggling mostly with estimating coffee consumption rates outside the home and office.
Since wanting to open my own cafe, I've been practising my espresso pulls, steaming milk, latte art, and roasting.
If all goes well with the planning, I hope to open within 6-9 months. It's a fairly big range because I'm still looking for the right spot. My #1 location is a brand new building that will be completed next month; however, I got the numbers: 485 euros/m2 "casco" (meaning box bare, just cement outer walls, cement floor, and cement ceiling, no toilets, no sinks, no inner walls, absolutely nothing else). The leasing agent was quick to point out those that in this "casco" scenario, the outer windows & doors are included (yes, you read that correctly) and of course, I need to add 19% VAT to that price. What this means monthly is a little of 6K euros per month for 125m2 (approx 1125 sf) just for rent alone. Having found the rental-to-sales ratios here and elsewhere on the internet, means a whole lot of selling!
One more fact about The Netherlands: although *$ has its EMEA HQ in Amsterdam, there isn't a single *$ shop open in the whole country. I think I also remember reading somewhere that the *$ coffee is roasted here and shipped to the rest of the EU.
Anyway, in the next 2 months, I'm hoping to take some barista lessons in London to make sure I'm doing it right. And while I'm there, I figure I'd take some cupping courses too.
That's more than enough blah blah from me... sorry, gift of gab.
Looking forward to getting to know you,
Marcy
