Honestly, I'd really steer you away from most of those machines. As other people have pointed out, they are made from questionable parts and there is really no longevity there. They're going to break in a few years and then you'll have to buy again in a few years. If you buy something in the $500-1000 range it should last for a decade or more. Lelit, Ascaso, La Pavoni, Quick Mill, etc. That's what you want, trust me!