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Not much time to finesse morning coffee...
Finessing too much up front for starters is probably a bad idea on forums in which someone is not familiar with. You could spend a lot of time typing out stuff and not get much feedback. Yes, since Americans are stuffing a Big Mac in their mouths on the fly while driving past a animated billboard of "The Army Wants You", posts like mine on the fly are quite common and seem to be fishing with 10 rods mounted to back of my speed boat.
I was thinking about playing the game. Taking the dive, and possibly could be sorry for it later, but I just might have fun and end up enjoying a super multi-purpose auto maker. At least I can say I tried one. Add to that, my Chemex ritual is starting to wear me down. I'm not willing to go back to my automated Mr. Coffee. My French Press was kind of cool, but I hated dealing with the grounds every time.
I used to make Espresso Mochas from an old Krups steam toy, but with a little practice and care, I was able to make many enjoyable Mochas. I have gotten away from Espresso Mochas a little in the last few years and pretty much just like a great cup of coffee, which my Chemex provides. However, since I am not a fussy as I used to be, perhaps an automaker can make coffee every morning which will suit me fine. I certainly have decent beans in which I like, and it intrigues me that a automaker can grind the beans, heat the water very hot, and make the coffee all at once, plus the steam wand if I want it. I might make an occasional Mocha, but my main thing is coffee.
A stainless steel machine that uses as little plastic as possible is good start. Also I have read a few machines have been able to make a good cup of coffee or espresso which rivals a decent shop in Italy. Yeah, I got many friends in Italy, but I don't live there, in fact no where near there. I am about as far away as you can get, so I can at least pretend by obtaining a marvelous machine that makes a great cup many times over, and will stand the test of time. I saw someone took a jab at Jura, but I am seeing that it gets many solid reviews with few complaints.
Others have said Saeco is very good, but others dumped their Saeco for a Jura and say it's a superior product. The Delonghi and Gaggia have had fair reviews but seem to have more complaints. For over performance with fewest complaints, it seems Jura wins hands down at Wholelattalove. Of course I have not read quite enough yet from other forums on super-autos or reviews, and that is partly why I came here. The Dutch one looks good of course, but I think it lacks other features I might want in a super-auto. I also like the self cleaning feature of Jura, since I have hard water in the mountains where I live. I filter mine, but it's far from perfect water to use. Some like machines that can be broken down and cleaned easily, others like self cleaning machines that don't have to be broken down. I'm not sure, but if a self cleaning machine works well that way, then it's less work for me!
The best shot of Espresso closest to me is probably San Francisco. However, I am willing to compromise on both Espresso and the Coffee. I don't need or expect the best from a nice machine, but something I can be a happy camper with. I have read most of these machines produce very good coffee or Espresso. Cappuccino and Lattes are somewhat interesting and a change on occasion, but I like Coffee mostly. The idea that these machines can make all of the above, and do so reasonably well is what compels me to take the plunge. As far as the machine for life, if it fits, then I will just keep sending it in for repairs. Sometimes the older models are better then the new ones!
On the method, I am used to drip pour method, but my main problem I yearn to have an auto maker again, and this time perhaps I can get something very nice, a super-auto combination drip/espresso machine would be interesting but it seems the pressure machines can make great coffee, although I have never owned one outside of a steam toy. Again, I would like to make Espresso Mochas, coffee, lattes, etc. with a multi-purpose machine. If I was a perfectionist and only drank coffee, I guess I would stay with the Chemex, use great beans with an excellent bean grinder.
Finessing too much up front for starters is probably a bad idea on forums in which someone is not familiar with. You could spend a lot of time typing out stuff and not get much feedback. Yes, since Americans are stuffing a Big Mac in their mouths on the fly while driving past a animated billboard of "The Army Wants You", posts like mine on the fly are quite common and seem to be fishing with 10 rods mounted to back of my speed boat.
I was thinking about playing the game. Taking the dive, and possibly could be sorry for it later, but I just might have fun and end up enjoying a super multi-purpose auto maker. At least I can say I tried one. Add to that, my Chemex ritual is starting to wear me down. I'm not willing to go back to my automated Mr. Coffee. My French Press was kind of cool, but I hated dealing with the grounds every time.
I used to make Espresso Mochas from an old Krups steam toy, but with a little practice and care, I was able to make many enjoyable Mochas. I have gotten away from Espresso Mochas a little in the last few years and pretty much just like a great cup of coffee, which my Chemex provides. However, since I am not a fussy as I used to be, perhaps an automaker can make coffee every morning which will suit me fine. I certainly have decent beans in which I like, and it intrigues me that a automaker can grind the beans, heat the water very hot, and make the coffee all at once, plus the steam wand if I want it. I might make an occasional Mocha, but my main thing is coffee.
A stainless steel machine that uses as little plastic as possible is good start. Also I have read a few machines have been able to make a good cup of coffee or espresso which rivals a decent shop in Italy. Yeah, I got many friends in Italy, but I don't live there, in fact no where near there. I am about as far away as you can get, so I can at least pretend by obtaining a marvelous machine that makes a great cup many times over, and will stand the test of time. I saw someone took a jab at Jura, but I am seeing that it gets many solid reviews with few complaints.
Others have said Saeco is very good, but others dumped their Saeco for a Jura and say it's a superior product. The Delonghi and Gaggia have had fair reviews but seem to have more complaints. For over performance with fewest complaints, it seems Jura wins hands down at Wholelattalove. Of course I have not read quite enough yet from other forums on super-autos or reviews, and that is partly why I came here. The Dutch one looks good of course, but I think it lacks other features I might want in a super-auto. I also like the self cleaning feature of Jura, since I have hard water in the mountains where I live. I filter mine, but it's far from perfect water to use. Some like machines that can be broken down and cleaned easily, others like self cleaning machines that don't have to be broken down. I'm not sure, but if a self cleaning machine works well that way, then it's less work for me!
The best shot of Espresso closest to me is probably San Francisco. However, I am willing to compromise on both Espresso and the Coffee. I don't need or expect the best from a nice machine, but something I can be a happy camper with. I have read most of these machines produce very good coffee or Espresso. Cappuccino and Lattes are somewhat interesting and a change on occasion, but I like Coffee mostly. The idea that these machines can make all of the above, and do so reasonably well is what compels me to take the plunge. As far as the machine for life, if it fits, then I will just keep sending it in for repairs. Sometimes the older models are better then the new ones!
On the method, I am used to drip pour method, but my main problem I yearn to have an auto maker again, and this time perhaps I can get something very nice, a super-auto combination drip/espresso machine would be interesting but it seems the pressure machines can make great coffee, although I have never owned one outside of a steam toy. Again, I would like to make Espresso Mochas, coffee, lattes, etc. with a multi-purpose machine. If I was a perfectionist and only drank coffee, I guess I would stay with the Chemex, use great beans with an excellent bean grinder.