Coffee doesn't taste like coffee anymore.

I'm obsessed with the reason for this. This is the latest thing I found out: SSRI's can affect taste; as can serotonin and noradrenaline imbalances. I take Zoloft, and coffee tastes like nothing anymore - no matter which high quality freshly roasted beans I buy, fresh grind, and French press. I miss coffee! :(
 
Yea, I miss coffee from the 1950's as well. I miss a lot of things from my youth. Like the sweetness of Coca Cola from back then, like the different way steak and pork chops, surrounded by layers of fat, tasted. Like the taste of McDonalds fries that were made from fresh potatoes and deep fried in beef tallow, tasted. Todays are crap. Like eating fresh-picked mulberrys with your breakfast corn flakes. And like waking up yo a house filled with fleshly brewed Hills Brothers. Breakfast always tasted better with a cup of "cowboy coffee".

Sigh. Anyway, I think that it was the way it was made. Back in the day, coffee was percolated, that is, the water was prefused with coffee juice and the steam escaping carried the coffee vapor smell out into the room along with the steam. Over and over. Remember the little glass top where the coffee shot up and hit it on the inside? Sigh.

It was a different grind, more course. No paper filters. No paper taste. Come to think of it, water tasted different back then. Guess that was before so many chemicals were poured into the ground, spoiling it's taste. Hard water, none of this softened water crap.

Today's makers just pour hot water over a layer of ground coffee. And vapor escaping just carries hot water steam. With a little paper flavor. Sigh.

I say all this because the smell of bresh brewed coffee is half the pleasure. Why is it that I can still remember the taste of coffee from back then, but not the smell? Guess my smell memory is .... old.

Snort.
 
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Coffee just doesn't smell and taste the way it used to. What happened? My mother used to make coffee in a perculator. :shock: The whole house was filled with that wonderful aroma of fresh coffee. I don't remember the brand, but it was probably Maxwell House, Yuban or MJB. I tried all of them lately and they are tasteless.

For the last several years, I have been grinding my bean in a hand mill. I kind of settled on 8 O'Clock Colombian. It's not bad, but something is missing. A few years ago I bought some moka-java that was really good. When I bought the same brand again, it wasn't the same.

Sometimes McDonalds coffee is really good, but most of the time it's just like everyone else's, just hot brown water.

The closest I can come to describing the taste I looking for is good coffee flavored ice cream or hard candies. I'm not looking for a hint of strawberry or caramel, just good cup of joe.

Thanks in advance for your suggestions.
Get you some fresh roasted beans from thirtycoffee.com They have many options!
 
This lack of smell and taste you have is probably from long-term damage that COVID-19 did to some people. I got COVID-19 4 times because I was working around kids, they would get it and so would I even though both of us wore masks. Anyway, I got lucky, my taste and smell were never hampered except in one bout where it went away about 50%, but then it came back. I have a friend who complains he can't smell as well as he used to, and things taste bland, he had COVID-19 once about 4 years ago and his senses still haven't come back. The one time I got COVID-19 it turned into long-term COVID-19, that one lasted about 6 months, it left me with mild high blood pressure.

I had both Moderna shots too, and it didn't do a damn bit of good, so I didn't take booster shots since the main shots didn't work.
 
Think I remember reading where 10% of everyone who had covid developed high blood pressure. Tried Googled this and also found where "Persistent high blood pressure was more common among people infected with SARS-CoV-2 who were treated with vasopressor and corticosteroid medications during the pandemic."

Doesn't seem to be any end to the misery of this disease. We were very cautious when it first started to appear. Didn't get it until late last year when we ate at a Chinese restaurant. Wife lost her smell and taste, still lacks desire for many of her favorite foods.

We both took Paxlovid. Stuff works, but no miracle cure. Worked better for me as I wasn't as sick when I started it. But!!! There's a nasty little side effect they don't tell you about Paxlovid. If you are fairly well along when you start it, it takes a little longer but works good. If you not all that sick when you take it, it works in a couple of days, then there's a period of relative recovery, then covid returns. With a vengeance. It enough to put you in the hospital (my O2 never got below 92%) but much worst that original. Went to doc and he confirmed that that's a pattern they see. But it will keep you out of the hospital and that's a good thing.

BTW, vaccinations don't prevent any disease, only a physical barrier like medical grade masks and eye protection will help. (Like those worn on hospital settings.)

Vaccinations just give your immune system a jump on the disease as it doesn't have to create antibiotics (the vaccination already did this.) It's real benefit is to keep your immune system ahead of the virus, preventing it from sending you to the hospital; and in that regard, they work wonders.

You're absolutely right about Moderna. In fact it's no longer permitted for use in the US. Was not found to be effective. Wife and I went and got Pfizer, based on our family doctor's recommendation. (If fact we finally got our 4th booster a week ago.)

So what's all this have to do with coffee? -- Can't enjoy coffee if you can't smell it. :)
 
Did you ever have Covid? A lot of people lost a certain percentage of their taste and smell and some of that never came back. I had covid 4 times due to being around school kids, and my smell and taste never went away, but I did get long term covid the last bout and that damn thing messed with my blood pressure, so now it runs a tad higher than it did before. I had a complete heart and lung workup done and they told me I the heart of a 35 year old...except I'm 73. So it all came back excellent, but now I have to take blood pressure meds.

Also as you age you naturally loose some smell and taste, it's why a lot of old people in their 80s and beyond get bored with food because they can't smell it or taste it, and they slack off on eating which isn't good.

However, after some research, it's not entirely due to aging, here's what I found, in the 1950s:

Coffee beans were typically roasted longer and at higher temperatures, which intensified the flavor and aroma.

Many households used percolators to brew coffee, which can over-extract the beans, leading to a stronger, sometimes bitter taste.

Coffee was often ground fresh at home or in local stores, preserving more of its natural oils and flavors.

The beans themselves were often of higher quality, with more robust flavor profiles.

So those 4 things did indeed contribute to the more intense smell and taste we got back then, but as with all things modern money is king, so they do things cheaper now to make more money and as a result we get more and more crap.

Percolators are tricky to use, I never used one, but my mom did, and she would watch it like a hawk, whereas other parents I knew the mom would just walk away doing other things. Having tasted the coffee made that way, the moms that walked away had bitter coffee, but for some reason they didn't care, they drank it like that day in and day out! My mom's coffee was not bitter, so guess which one I preferred? I can't recall how she used the percolator so I doubt I could make good coffee with it, at least not without a great deal of practice.

Moka Pot does come the closest to a percolator, but the moka pot makes the coffee better. I've had percolator coffee at my church, I don't care for it, but again not sure if the person making it is watching it well enough. But I love Moka pot coffee...as long as it comes out of my Bialetti Brikka, the regular Express moka pot I use to have I got inconsistent coffee, the Brikka is very consistent.

Most Percolators are large for making coffee for a lot of people, but if all you need is to make 1 to 3 cups, don't use a large one and think reducing the water will work, no it doesn't, buy a perc for the number of cups you will be making. The smaller 1 to 3 cup size percs are only made by GSI Outdoors called the Glacier, it's made of stainless steel, the smallest one on Amazon was 4 to 6 cups, but GSI also makes a 6 cup.

One of the comments here mentioned that back in the 50s they used Robusta beans, not sure where he heard that but my sources said it's not true. Even going back further into the 1800s coffee made in America was primarily Arabica beans, Robusta beans were not widely cultivated or used for coffee production at that time. Arabica beans were favored for their smoother, more balanced flavor compared to the stronger, more bitter taste of Robusta beans.

Today in the our wonderful modern world of schit, we will never get that experience back that we had in the 50s, if any thing as time goes by even more it will get worse. Even Starbucks coffee is a lot weaker than it was just 15 years ago.
 
It may be that fumigators came in to deal with your flea infestation but didn't tell you that you had to leave.
 
Fleas can easily be killed with Raid Fumigators.

Bomb that house as per instructions, but it's best to leave the house for at least 12 hours not 4 as the instructions say.

I own rental properties, and one my tenants that was in the place when I bought the units had a dog which they must not have ever bathed. I walked into that place and the next thing I knew I had fleas on me, not sure how the tenant even lived in that unit like that. I used those Fumigators and put one in every room, a bit of an overkill according to the directions. Left the place closed up for 24 hours, came back and all was at peace in the unit. I had to have the carpet removed because it was worn, but I asked the carpet guy if he had fleas attack him, nope. After the new carpet was laid, just to be safe I fumigated it again, the new tenants never complained of fleas; not sure if that second fumigation was necessary, but I did it anyway.
 
I think it comes down to the water, I had to resort to bottled water after we moved 2 years ago. The water we used to have tasted pretty good and made good coffee. After we moved the water is horrid. Our pets don't like it. Even with a whole house reverse osmosis system its better but not for making coffee or tea. I know its not the beans I buy from my roaster.
 
I assume you are on well water and that's why you're using an RO system? If you are on city water there is no need for an RO. What you need is a high quality filtration system, something similar to Multi Pure Aquaperform. I use that system in my home and I can't tell the difference between the filtered water and bottled water. But my system won't work good with well water unless it first goes through an RO then through the filter, because an RO by itself will not remove all "odd" tastes, whereas a filtration system will take that out.

The Multi-Pure filter lasts many years, not just 6 to 12 months like most do which will end up costing a lot more to filter water with. On city water my filter will last at least 12 years with a prewrap filter that cost about $3.50 that I change about every 3 years, and $150 for the main filter every 12 or more years.

Using nothing but bottled water to make coffee may not be horribly expensive if all you use them for is coffee, but if you use them for drinking as well it could cost one person about $400 a year.
 
I recently purchased a bag of Capi Royal green coffee to experiment with a robusta coffee. I roasted some to full city with the goal of using it for espresso. It has only been two days but I can't resist and have tried it in pour over and also a cappuccino today just to see what it might be like. Tastes like coffee....just like Coffee!!
I also have a friend who frequents my kitchen cafe and I always like to get his impressions. I was pleased with the beans and surprised by the generally nice smells developing so even though it was a bit early to try and pull a shot at that point so I gave him the two roasts from the day before just to see how he might describe them. The Burundi I figured he would like as he always likes the African beans. Don't remember his description of the Burundi because after whiffing the Capi Royal without hesitation, he said... "this one smells like coffee." . None of the mysterious descriptors; dark, warm, meaty, mushroomy.....no....Coffee.
There is a sharpness to it that is somehow unmistakably "vintage" coffeeish. It isn't anything I have found in Arabica beans, not sure I would want it there either.
Admittedly my goal was to pack in more caffeine and also see how much crema I could produce in a shot I...heard that is how the Italian roasters do it...however I spent more on the Capi Royal/lb than I spend on most of my beans so it clearly wasn't about saving money on lesser beans. Working on the blend but a 50/50 blend was a BIT over the top and had a bitterness that carried on through the milk and the next half hour. Thinking somewhere between 10-25% might do it. And I will have slaved to create the first over produced diner espresso blend?!?!
....The pour over was oddly way better at a 50/50 ratio. Bitterness was much more subdued and the caffeine was all I hoped for.
It was a moment of instant recall on the first sip and I remembered this thread...for me this was definitely a trip in the wayback machine.
 
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