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It froths well but often doesn't heat the milk

Check in 2 years later. The machine is still as good as new. No issues :)

I have to agree - good fresh coffee makes all the difference. I have a local coffee house that does roasting. Almost anything that is 24-48rs after roast tastes much better than any of the more exotic stuff that is vacume sealed and unknown age. The one exception as noted is the Lavazza Super...

Any other's with this machine please post your comments on it here. Would be good to add some other points of view to this thread thanks

I am not sure having never used the Jura 8. However there are several reviews on the Jura online. My machine arrived double boxed from WLL with no damage. You might want to give them another shot at it

I found a few stores selling it for 849 including shipping. I called WLL and price matched it to one of them. Then I filled in the 50 rebate also found in WLL. As for the boiler issue I am unsure if that is a real problem or not.

I have created a "newbies" review for the above superautomatic. I know they are not popular, I know better can be created by hand but for someone wanting better than drip and ease of use they fill a spot. When I first purchased this device I could find very little non-affiliated reviews. So here...